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20-06-2024 10:10 PM
20-06-2024 10:10 PM
Hi,
He is improved when on medication, but not completely. There is still some refinements of meds occurring, but overall he’s far more stable which has been terrific.
We are still in the early days of working out what helps. As @chwi suggested, I think diet is a solid component for him, along with supporting good sleep hygiene, regular exercise (both independently and with others) and developing or re-establishing some routines to support the above. It’s slow, but I can see some consistent progress starting to emerge.
One thing that he commented on as being beneficial this week was getting out of the city to the country for a change of pace and scenery. In fact, we both felt calmer! So this Saturday we have planned a hike in a lovely spot about an hour out of the city…something to look forward to.
20-06-2024 10:14 PM
20-06-2024 10:14 PM
20-06-2024 10:24 PM
20-06-2024 10:24 PM
Yep it’s super tough, the meds are tough. He’s very lucky to have good family. That eat well..Community and family makes the world of difference. i wish you and your family the best.
20-06-2024 11:35 PM
20-06-2024 11:35 PM
Hi @Laeni
my daughter is 28 years old and was diagnosed with schizoaffective illness when she turned 21. We live in the northern suburbs of Perth, WA.
We are currently transitioning out of her second lengthy psychotic episode which felt very traumatic and challenging for us. It's been tough and mentally exhausting.
I wish the stigma around severe mental illness (SMI) goes away, navigating the mental health system and the legislation around it takes a lot of time.
My daughter's illness is a combination of schizophrenia and depression, although we aren't sure if there aren't any other co morbidities attached. She is doing better at the moment, however still very fragile, after months of multiple hospitalisations.
let me know if there is anything you'd like to know from our experience of dealing with the illness to date. Although, each individual's illness will have its own unique nuances.
20-06-2024 11:43 PM
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21-06-2024 02:39 PM
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21-06-2024 06:18 PM
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21-06-2024 09:21 PM
21-06-2024 09:21 PM
Hello @Sue70
It was lovely to receive your message. I’m sorry to hear you’ve all been through such a rough time of late. I hope things start to settle down and recover for you all soon.
I too wish that the stigma around MHI would be changed to be more compassionate, more inclusive and to reduce the negative stigma. It’s hard enough for folks living with these illnesses…they need all the support, understanding and positivity/encouragement they can get (as do we, the parents, sometimes).
If you are happy for me to do so, I’d like to keep you in mind with regard to questions. I don’t have any questions on the top of my tongue this evening, but it has heartened me to know there’s someone who has some understanding that I could contact. It feels a little less isolating…thank you.
Please feel free to message me too. The legislation and other aspects can be tricky to navigate…so I’d be happy to discuss. (We live in the southern suburbs).
Sending our best for your daughter’s recovery. 🙂
22-06-2024 01:35 AM
22-06-2024 01:35 AM
Hi @Cp63
Thanks so much for your message. I was partway through a slightly lengthy reply, took and phone call then the site timed out and I lost my draft message.
Just wanted to say thanks, and I’ll reply fully again shortly.
sending our best.
22-06-2024 10:07 AM
22-06-2024 10:07 AM
Hello @Cp63,
Hope you're going well. Just wanted to follow up from my attempt to reply yesterday 🙂
Firstly, sending you and your son our best with the upcoming transition from hospital. As my initial post mentioned, my son recently received his diagnosis...this was after his second extended stay in hospital. On reflection, I would've liked to have received a bit more of a 'briefing' from a Dr or Social Worker about what some of the likely transitional phases might have been for my son as he re-adjusted to life in the community...just so I could be prepared a little better in terms of what to expect and whether there was cause for (serious) concern or not.
In my experience, I've found that there's so much 'second guessing' and uncertainty when caring or supporting someone with a severe mental illness, that is draining and can add to everyone's worry or distress. However, the helpful news is that I believe that the transition might've been a bit better if I'd had a little further insight into what to expect. So, I thought I'd share a little bit about our experience in the hopes that it might help to support you. 🙂
Quick background: Ideally, our son was meant to transition to a step-down facility (24 hr nurse/social worker/counsellor etc) as his initial step in transitioning back into the community. However, it turned out that there weren't any facilities with a bed available at the time when he we deemed ready for discharge. There was one spot a very long way from us, but we were not keen on this, as a family, due to the travel involved in trying to get to see him...over a 2 hour round trip. We have always been close with our son (despite the difficulties at times) and knew that we would not be able to reasonably incorporate this much travel into our schedule.
So...after much discussion...my husband and I decided to create a 'flat' at our house. We have a reasonably small home (3x2), but decided that with the other kids away at uni etc, this was the option that was going to give our son the best chance at a successful transition out of hospital. Creating the little flat was like an episode of the TV show The Block. Big time pressures etc, but with the generous help of a good friend and tradie (gotta love tradies), and lots of hands-on work from us...we got it done in time (like with 4 hours to spare!!)
Now, for the transition part:
1. Our son thought he was well when he was in hospital. I think that he was comparing himself to some of the other patients. Based on his comparison, he thought that he was ready for discharge and good to go. Similarly to your son, our son didn't accept his diagnosis. But, he did accept the fact that he now needed help and was willing to take medication. He doesn't love it, but has a sense that it must be helping and his compliance with medication was his ticket to discharge in his mind!
2. Once he was discharged, he was very tired. On reflection and talking with him 3 weeks on, he can now see that he was still not as well as what he thought he was. That first week was up and down. He needed to sleep alot and rest.
3. On his first few short trips to a grocery store to get his favourite foods, he compared himself to others and realised that he was still not all that well. Whilst this was a bit of a shock for him, he took it rather well and we just focused on encouraging him to get good rest, exercise with us and so-on in that first week.
4. It turned out that he had grown fond of a few of the nurses in the hospital and missed the banter and conversations with them. So, this was tricky for him. There were a few times in that first week to 10 days when he wanted to go back to hospital (after wanting to leave hospital for so long!), but it wasn't for reasons of being unwell...I believe it was because he missed the chats with nurses and the routine he'd become used to...I think he felt more secure with what he had become accustomed to and needed time to get accustomed to the new normal at home. With support from us and very close monitoring, he settled in. But it made it clear to me that we needed to establish some good routines at certain times of days to help him feel secure and supported. These routines seem to have helped.
5. At around the 2-week post discharge mark, he was starting to feel more settled and wanted to feel 'useful'. So he found some volunteering work a few hours a week...something he'd never done before. It is with some beautiful people at a lovely organisation, and has been a positive event to look forward to in his weekly schedule.
6. Due to seizures he experienced in hospital (meds didn't agree with him 😥), he is unable to drive until October. So, we have lined up about 5 different modes of transport that he can use. One is me...the others are his long-board, bike, Uber and public transport. We got his bike serviced and he has really enjoyed the exercise and independence that this has provided him with.
7. He wants to get back to work, but it's still too soon. So together we have decided that some work in a very part time capacity might be a good way to start ('baby step'). At the moment, about 6 hours a week is his capacity. Even then, if he didn't want to work, I'd be fine with that for the time being (we are still learning about where his base line is and he said last night that this is the first time in his adult life that he has been well - and he is now getting to know himself with a more compliant mind), but he says that doing something helps him feel a bit better...so we will give it a go and monitor.
He found a few hours of trade assistant work with a friend, but didn't enjoy that. So we are trying another avenue of circling back to a previous employer from a few years ago to see if they might extend some understanding and provide a few hours of work a week. We will find out more on Monday.
8. But in our experience so far, it really is 'gently as it goes'. Diet, sleep, routine, medication, exercise, people to talk to and something to do are all great elements to get established in the early days.
Today we are taking our first day-trip to the country to go on a gentle hike. Despite living in a city, we are all from the country and find that we all feel better when we can get out of the city. Our son also clearly identified this as a supportive element for him during the week when I took a day off work to go and visit with a friend just outside of the city for the afternoon. He said how much calmer and clear headed he was. So, we decided that we'd leverage off the back of that insight and head out of the city for the better part of today and go enjoy some of the beautiful forests and quaint towns nearby.
Lastly...our son still isn't at the point of accepting his diagnosis. I think this will take some time. He does acknowledge that he needs support, that he has been through a lot, that his mind doesn't always work with him and that some of his meds seem to be helping. He still thinks he was fine when he went into hospital...he can't understand why he was admitted, which has been a hard topic to navigate with him at times. But over the last while, he has been starting to re-connect with close trusted family and friends who saw him in the week/10 days prior to his hospitalisation and we are all sharing similar anecdotes about his health (or lack thereof). So based on this, he is slowly starting to think that maybe, something was going on and he might not have been as well as he thinks he was.
This must be a frightening realisation for a person to consider, so we are proceeding carefully and gently. I think it is quite understandable that they don't want to believe, at least initially. It must be worrying to wonder whether you can trust your mind at times or not. Therefore, we are supporting him to choose a few people who he knows are trustworthy, have good consistent judgement and to ask them to help him monitor himself (one of those people is me). People he'll believe so that if they say, "hey mate...you seem to be not travelling too well...let's check in with your nurse or doctor..." he will be more likely to believe and go with that. I really can't fully imagine what this must be like for a young person. (I had an acquired brain injury from a motor bike accident at 17 - farm work - and had 4 years of epilepsy and 'brain snaps' as a result, so I can recall and apply those memories, but I still don't think it's the same. I can relate to meds, loosing my licence, social isolation etc, but I eventually made a good recovery. I hope our kids can get to remission too💙).
So, for now, we are being kind, gentle, giving time. He says he needs people around him more often than not, so we have made a schedule. We have tried to keep it fun and light, whilst maintaining routines and improving his diet.
I acknowledge that this has been a very detailed message...but a month ago, I was feeling quite lost and worried in the lead up to his discharge. I didn't know what to expect when he came home and wished I'd had someone to speak to who had lived experience as a carer of a young person living with this MHI. Therefore, I thought I'd offer this detailed account of part of our experience so far (3 weeks on from discharge) in the hopes that it might help you in some small way.
Take good care and sending our best.
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Supporting and promoting the well-being of mental health carers and their families.
Mental Health Carers Austalia.
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To be the voice of mental health carers to enable the best life possible.
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We're here to support and promote the well-being of mental health carers and their families
Mental Health Carers Australia is the only national advocacy group solely concerned with the well-being and promotion of the needs of mental health carers.
Supporting and promoting the well-being of mental health carers and their families.
Mental Health Carers Austalia.
Our Mission
To be the voice of mental health carers to enable the best life possible.
Get In Touch With Us
We're here to support and promote the well-being of mental health carers and their families
Mental Health Carers Australia is the only national advocacy group solely concerned with the well-being and promotion of the needs of mental health carers.