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Cluster B brother

I have a brother that has a some cluster B, narcissistic personality disorder, mixed with some antisocial disorders. I'd like to share with everyone, the pieces of the jigsaw that I've
gathered over the years, interacting with him.

 

He:

 

1. Must be right almost all the time.

 

2. Thinks highly of himself, even though he's messed up badly in some parts of his life.

 

3. Very intolerant of criticism, even though he pretends not to be, especially when he thinks he's right.

 

4. Absolutely never apologizes for anything, even when everyone has pointed out he did something wrong or, is just downright obvious he messed up bad.

 

4.1. This part is especially true with his victims, who he considers below him and almost an insult that he should treat with them on an equal footing.

 

4.2. The antisocial aspect of his disorders can be clearly appreciated, when he outright states "he doesn't owe an apology", supporting such claim with weak rationalizations and/or just plain avoids and ignores the subject altogether.

 

5. Is a perpetual victim, even though he did something wrong, the very act of pointing this out to him, turns him into a victim and you into the bad guy.

 

6. When evidence begins to stack up against him when being confronted with wrongdoings, he is proficient with the "dance-around" tactic, constantly avoiding the point(s) and begins flooding the discussion/argument with a machinegun of drama and accusations of his own, to try and breakdown all communication.

Together with a fast-revolving Karpman drama triangle, he also tries his best to constantly turn the tables and make himself into the victim and you into some kind of toxic, immature moron, who is "just taking it out on him".

 

7. When someone or something goes against his views, he is stupendously judgemental and, when irritated enough, doesn't hold back in pointing his finger (sometimes even screaming) with inappropriate, abusive and very aggressive tones and remarks, sometimes going over the edge to pummel his victims with his words.

 

8. Uses streams of judgement and criticism, to wittle down and erode the self-confidence and self-assurance of others, namely, his friends, his family and his romantic relationships.

 

9. Is an exceptional detector of mistakes, especially those that aren't there. He's the kind of person who sees someone:

 

- being a beginner at something

- be proud at something they've achieved

- be a bit awkward

- committ some inconsequential error

- tell some silly joke or random opinion

 

Only to shred them to pieces with his words. He is an utter A hole like that.

 

10. Enjoys the power he gains over others though he does hide it well. Its obvious that he does because he likes to have his victims become invested and dependent on what he thinks, so he can make them dance like puppets.

He surrounds himself with such dysfunctional friendships and relationships since he was a kid.

 

11. Treating others like S has always delighted him. It makes him feel superior to others, even though he doesn't really have much going for him, even at nearly 40 years old.

 

12. Is also proficient in the repackaging of contexts, constantly and cowardly trying to hide his abusive comments under such cloaks as:

 

- just trying to help you

- you're just being a baby because "you're just lashing out"

- can't take even a little criticism

- talking to you is like walking on eggshells (even though he turns into a mushroom cloud of drama when he gets something pointed about him)

- you're weak because you can't take the abuse (as if discussing with other people was some sort of bootcamp)

 

Instead of owning the BS he spews on a regular basis.Instead of owning the BS he spews on a regular basis.

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Re: Cluster B brother

Hi @gatewood 

 

Welcome to the forums. 

Im so sorry your brother is like that. Most of what you have written I see in my brother too. It’s hard and it hurts. I hate when I use to see him. My mum is the same though and they work together to belittle me and my dad. 

I can totally understand your pain. I’ve got no advice other than can you distance yourself from him? 

I struggle to talk about him as it can send me down the suicidal path. So I need to be careful. 

Re: Cluster B brother

Hey @gatewood welcome! Wow, that's a lot that you're dealing with! Thanks for sharing, can't imagine it's easy to talk about. @Captain24 you get it! It's always harder when it's family, too. 

 

I second what Captain24 said about trying to gain some distance from him. As difficult as it can be to do, it can also help to only engage with him in a detached, disengaged way - i.e. not giving him any kind of emotional reactions and not trying to have any kind of emotionally attuned relationship with him. Almost like... you're only giving him about the amount of emotional energy you might give to a grocer or banker. 

 

How often do you have to see your brother?

 

 

(PS Plus a proper hello to you @Captain24 and happy new year 😊)

Re: Cluster B brother

Hey @Jynx 

Re: Cluster B brother

@gatewood I was married to that for 13 years.

Re: Cluster B brother

@Glisten @gatewood @Captain24 @Jynx 

 

My clinical psychologist suggested in our appointment in December that my father could potentially have narcissism, too. I haven't begun to research it for myself, but what you've described here sounds a lot like him, just that in my Dad's case, he still has a lot going for him.

 

It's not easy being his daughter.

Re: Cluster B brother

That's why I hardly ever talk to mine.

Re: Cluster B brother

Wow, it's like you are talking about my partner. Your words resonated with me so profoundly. Thankyou for sharing.

Re: Cluster B brother

Welcome to the forums @Dymphna21 . I hope you find the connection helpful as you navigate some of the challenges that may come with mental health. 

 

Tagging others @gatewood @Spirit_Healer @WizardMotor @Glisten 

Re: Cluster B brother

Hey everyone @tyme @gatewood @Dymphna21 @WizardMotor @Glisten ,

 

I have an unofficial differential diagnosis for my Dad, now.

 

I think he might have ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder).