Trying to convince my son he is not well

[Time]

Hi there everyone, I am new here and really just want some guidance and help understanding where to go where to start and how to help him help himself.

My son is 43yrs old, was a gentle sould, loved his boy dearly.  Unfortunately 12yrs ago his girlfriend and son moved away from him.  This sent him into a spriral smoking majurana and deep depression.  He has since been diaganosed with Schozoprenia drug induced.  He smashe his house up holes in walls, destroyes furniture etc.  My hubby and I replace ro repair and have done so for a number of yrs just so he does not become homeless as this would then start another cycle.

He is currently taking meds which im not really sure he will take but im keeping an eye on this.  ATM he is.

He has no friends lives alone and is very isolated.  How to get him into the land of the living is 1 question and who can I ask for help regarding how to get someone out to see him for counselling visit or friend visit ?? If this is possible.  Ive done everything for him from cleaning shopping paying bills etc.  He does have 2 interests gardening and footbal.

If there is anyone out there who could give me some answers on how to help him I would very much appreciate it.

Im just the typical very worried mum who loves her son.  I would also like him to get into detox but that is another question for another time perhaps.

[Queenie]

Hey there @Time. Reading your post, I can hear your concern for your son. Have you ever thought about connecting him with community groups like group 61? Group 61 is a not for profit non government organisation where volunteers are matched to people living with mental health issues (often they are peers) and their aim is community engagement and participation. It might mean a companion to go have a coffee with or to chat to and to be friends with. I'm not sure where you live but if google group 61, you could see if they are in your area. 

There are also clubhouses across Australia which is social and vocational supported rehabilitation for people living with mental health issues. Clubhouses are run by members for members and may have programs such as gardening, cooking, administration etc. I used to be a member of a clubhouse and found it very valuable in the recovery process. They also specialise in social reaction in a group setting. 

If you pop into the carer's side of the foums, there are members who are parents of mentally ill adult children. They might be able to pass on some words of wisdom also.

[Time]

Thank you queenie Im not sure they have group 61 here in Tassie ive never heard of it but I will google it and see what happen. thank you again
regards TIME

[Hope4me]

Hi and welcome @Time;

You didn't mention if your son is having/has had contact with his son. It might be worth mentioning that being a sober role model would enhance his relationship now and for the future.

Hope 

[Time]

Hi Hope thank you for your reponse.  Unforunately he my son does not see much of his son now.  His son does not like to be around dad when he has anger outburst and when he is smoking which I understand. I have discussed this with my son at lengths but to no avail.  When I did mention it he would say I smoke away from him, in another room. However children know they are not stupid.  While he continues to smoke he will be apathetic to all which is sad.  But I will continue to suggest he should have more contact and try to not participate in his smoking while his son is around.  If I ask him to give the smoking away he becomes angry and says I cannot im addicted, he uses tobacoo with his majurana which is double addiction.  He cant wear the patches and they make him itch and his skin goes red.  Ive suggested hypnotherapy but he shruggs that off.  He has tried going cold will last a couple of days then has anger outburst and smashes everything around him that is not screwed down.  I would like to know if there is another drug that could be taken to block majurana / tobacoo ?? Does anyone know if there is ??

[Hope4me]

I'm not sure @Time

I wish I had answers for you. It must be a tough gig worrying about him as you do. I stepped back away from my son to let him make his own mistakes. He's a better man for it, but circumstances were very different to yours.

If you're up for it, keep writing 'for you'. People here get it.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Take care of you...

Hope